Top 25 Matches in TNA History

You know, I love TNA Wrestling.  It was the first wrestling company I ever loved (and pretty much only with the exception of the defunct WCW).  However, it’s gotten really bad since Hogan came in in 2010.  I decided to think about the old great days of TNA and make a top 25 list of the greatest matches they’ve had (that I’ve seen).  Two things though I have to say: 1) These are my personal opinions, so don’t complain if you disagree.  2) I’ve pretty much stopped watching with how bad 2010 was (with the Nasty Boys defeating Team 3-D, Orlando Jordan defeating Samoa Joe, Mr. Anderson defeating Kurt Angle, and Rob Van Dam defeating AJ Styles for the world title, I was done), so there will probably be good matches that aren’t here (I’ve heard great thing about some of the Motor City Machine Guns/Beer Money matches), but I haven’t seen them so I can’t rank them.  Now, let’s get started.  Feel free to point out any great matches I forgot.

Honorable Mentions

Matches that just missed the cut.

Honorable Mentions:
Hard Justice 2007: TNA World Heavyweight Championsip, TNA X-Division Championship, TNA World Tag Team Championships, and IWGP World Heavyweight Championship: Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe *
Turning Point 2005: NWA World Heavyweight Championship: Jeff Jarrett (c) vs. Rhino
Genesis 2007: Fight for the Right Tournament Finals: Ladder: Christian Cage vs. Kaz
Turning Point 2009: Kurt Angle vs. Desmond Wolfe
Turning Point 2008: Falls Count Anywhere: Kurt Angle vs. Abyss
Turning Point 2008: TNA World Tag Team Championships: Beer Money (c) vs. The Motor City Machine Guns
Bound for Glory 2009: Kurt Angle vs. Matt Morgan
Genesis 2006: AJ Styles vs. Christian Cage *
Destination X 2012: TNA World Heavyweight Championship: Bobby Roode (c) vs. Austin Aries
Final Resolution 2005: TNA X-Division Championship: Ultimate X: Petey Williams (c) vs. AJ Styles vs. Chris Sabin                                                                                     Unbreakable: TNA X-Division Championship: Christopher Daniels (c) vs. AJ Styles vs. Samoa Joe **

* Would of made the list if it didn’t have a screwy finish.

** Am I the only one who finds this match highly overrated?

25. 20 Man Steel Cage Gauntlet: AJ Styles vs. Abyss vs. Alex Shelley vs. Jay Lethal vs. Samoa Joe vs. Chris Sabin vs. Matt Morgan vs. Homicide vs. Scott Steiner vs. Consequences Creed vs. Rhino vs. Jeff Jarrett vs. Yujiro vs. Kurt Angle vs. Shane Sewell vs. Sheik Abdul Bashir vs. Booker T. vs. Tetsuya Naito vs. Eric Young vs. Hernandez from TNA Impact on March 26, 2009

Holy crap that’s a lot of people.  Leading into Lockdown in 2009, they held this match to determine the Team Captains for the annual Lethal Lockdown match.  The match immedietly gets off to a good start with AJ & Abyss starting off (giving me flashbacks to their 2005 match at Lockdown where they basically killed each other).  Pretty much everyone looked great in the match (with obvious exceptions like Shane Sewell.  Why did they even have him wrestle?), and the story telling was also great.  Jeff Jarrett was coming down to the ring and Kurt attacked him to prevent him from entering the ring.  Angle later attacked him again when it was time for Angle to enter the match, and eventually everyone was eliminated except Angle and #20 came out, which was Jarrett re-entering.  Angle beat him, until Joe came out and he was show to be the final person in the match.  Joe ended up pinning Angle, and later gave up being Captain of Lethal Lockdown and Jarrett tried to give it to AJ until AJ gave it to Jarrett.

24. TNA World Tag Team Championships & IWGP Tag Team Championships: Full Metal Mayhem: Scott Steiner & Booker T (TNA) vs. The British Invasion (Brutus Magnus & Doug Williams) (IWGP) vs. Team 3-D (Brother Ray & Brother Devon) vs. Beer Money Inc. (James Storm & Robert Roode) from Bound for Glory 2009

They never made the rules 100% clear until the match started, but basically both the TNA & IWGP belts were hanging above the ring.  Whoever grabbed the IWGP belts won those titles and whoever grabbed the TNA belts won those titles with the match not over until both belts were pulled down.  The rest were normal Full Metal Mayhem rules.  This was a great match that perfectly ended the feud these four teams had during 2009 (though the Brits & Beer Money later entered a feud which was never finished).  The British Invasion finally captured the TNA World Tag Team Championships while 3-D recaptured the IWGP belts.  Beer Money looked strong in it, and so did Steiner.  Booker was taken out on a stretcher during the match and was later released from the company (the storyline reasoning being that Beer Money injured him by hitting the DWI on him).  Just a great match.

23. Kurt Angle vs. AJ Styles from Slammiversary 2008

The first one on one match between AJ Styles & Kurt Angle, and it was a great match.  I didn’t care for the finish (I’m not a fan of AJ, plus it was a screwy finish), but I can forgive that with how good of a match this was.  First of many great, good, and mediocre matches (I can’t think of a bad match they’ve had).

22. Vacant TNA X-Divsion Championship: Alex Shelly vs. Chris Sabin from Genesis 2009

An absolutely great X-Division match.  After the title was vacated, both Sabin & Shelly entered a tournament to crown a new champ and they advanced to the finals.  Both were members of the Motor City Machine Guns, so there was no cheating or anything (I don’t have a problem with heels cheating, but a match just feels better if they don’t).  There was good high-flying and technical wrestling in the match, and Alex Shelly FINALLY became X-Division champion.  Just a great match, but it still didn’t take match of the night.

21. TNA World Heavyweight Championship: AJ Styles (c) vs. Kurt Angle from TNA Impact on January 4, 2010

While I hate Hulk Hogan and think he’s pretty much killing TNA, that Impact where he debuted was pretty good.  This was perfect to end it, and a perfect match to show people who were watching TNA for the first time.  Kurt Angle finally received his rematch for the TNA World Heavyweight Championship (why did it take him 4 months to get a rematch anyway?), and still looked good in defeat.  I was depressed Kurt lost that night, but it was still a great match and probably the best Impact match we’ve seen.

20. TNA World Tag Team Championships: Monsters Ball Match: Beer Money Inc. (James Storm & Robert Roode) (c) vs. Team 3-D (Brother Ray & Brother Devon vs. L.A.X. (Hernandez & Homicide) vs. Abyss & Matt Morgan w/Special Referee Steve “Mongo” McMichael from Bound for Glory IV

The Monsters Ball Match is always good at BFG, but this is by far the best.  TNA took their four top tag teams (minus the Motor City Machine Guns for some reason) and put them in the most violent Monsters Ball match in TNA.  There were the usual chairs, trash cans, kendo sticks, etc.  Then we got into weapons like forks and cheese graders, and it kept progressing until Abyss was put through a flaming table.  All four teams put up a good fight (though as always, Morgan has to carry Abyss in the match), and the ending was great.  Team 3-D put Hernandez through a table covered in thumb tacks, Storm spit beer in Devon’s face and covered Hernandez for the three count.  Steve was weird as the ref, but I won’t complain.  Just a great, violent match that any fan of hardcore wrestling should see.

19. TNA World Heavyweight Championship: Kurt Angle (c) vs. Sting from Bound for Glory 2007

The match was a bit rushed, but still a great match and one of Sting’s best matches in recent years.  Taking place in Atlanta, Sting returned to his “stomping grounds” while Kurt returned to the city where he won the gold medal (with a broken neck).  After a great match, which (unfortunately) had interference, Sting was still able to become TNA World Heavyweight Champion and continue his undefeated Bound for Glory streak (which began in 2006 ended in 2009,  That sucks).  However, Sting lost the belt a mere two days later at the tapings for the next impact.

18. TNA World Tag Team Championships & IWGP Tag Team Championships: Steel Cage Philadelphia Street Fight: Beer Money Inc. (James Storm & Robert Roode) (TNA) vs. Team 3-D (Brother Ray & Brother Devon) (IWGP) from Lockdown 2009

This was by far match of the night.  It’s one of the few steel cage matches I’ve seen where the majority of the match took place outside the cage.  This was a match to unify the two titles.  Great match where both teams gave it their all, and Team 3-D captured their 22nd tag team championship in the same city where they captured their first.

17. Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe from Turning Point 2006

After Joe suffered his first loss to Kurt at Genesis 2006, Joe demanded a rematch and received it.  This was built as THE Rematch and the final time Joe & Kurt would face each other.  This was a great match that almost topped their match at Genesis, but the screwy ending brought it down (Angle tried to use a chair, ended up hitting the ropes which bounced back and hit him, so Joe but him in the rear naked choke and won).  Still a great match and not their last.

16. Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe from Genesis 2006

This was Samoa Joe’s first loss in TNA after 18 months.  They built up to this after Angle debuted and headbutted Joe (nicknamed “The Headbutt heard around the world”), and was advertized as the “Dream Match of the Decade.”  The match was amazing and it was a great moment to see Joe tap for the first time.  Joe got all angry after the loss and led to the match seen above, and many other matches.  Including…

15. TNA World Heavyweight Championship: Steel Cage: Kurt Angle (c) vs. Samoa Joe from Lockdown 2008

Great match that didn’t suffer from any interference and the match where Samoa Joe finally became TNA World Heavyweight Champion.  Both men looked good, though Frank Trigg (I think that’s his name) on commentary was really distracting.  The match was great, though the stipulation made it mean less.  If Joe lost, he would of retired from professional wrestling.  There was no way Joe was going to retire, so at this point it wasn’t even debatable who was gonna win.  Still a good match though, and led to some great Samoa Joe title defenses including…

14. TNA World Heavyweight Championship: King of the Mountain Match: Samoa Joe (c) vs. Booker T vs. Rhino vs. Christian Cage vs. Robert Roode w/Special Enforcer Kevin Nash from Slammiversary 2008

At the time, this was the best King of the Mountain match.  It was also Robert Roode’s first shot at the TNA World Heavyweight Championship, and the match made Samoa Joe the first champion to ever successfully defend the title in the King of the Mountain match (a point they said too many times, which gave away who was gonna win).  Roode should of won the match, but oh well.  Still a great match.

13. TNA X-Division Championship: King of the Mountain Match: Suicide (c) vs. Alex Shelly vs. Chris Sabin vs. Jay Lethal vs. Consequences Creed from Slammiversary 2009

I still have no clue what TNA Was thinking with Suicide.  He was good in the ring since he was portrayed by either Christopher Daniels or in this case Kaz (or Kazarian), but the gimmick and idea was awful.  But this was still a great match.  I was really hoping one of the hometown Motor City Machine Guns would take home the gold, but that didn’t happen (though Shelly was the most impressive in the match).  This is one of the best X-Division matches TNA has ever put on.  This was just a perfect match for the X-Division to shine on TNA’s seven year anniversary.

12. Three Degrees of Pain Match: Kurt Angle vs. Desmond Wolfe

TNA was trying to give Wolfe a major push when he debuted (they really dropped the ball in 2010) and entered him in a feud with Kurt Angle.  They had an awesome match at Turning Point, but this one was even better.  The rules to the match were it was a 2 out of 3 falls match.  Fall One was pinfall only, Fall Two was submission only, and if needed, Fall Three was won by whoever escaped the cage.  Wolfe impressively pinned Angle in round 1, and Angle was able to get Wolfe to tap out to the Ankle Lock in Round 2.  Round 3, Angle put Wolfe back in the Ankle Lock until Wolfe basically passed out and Angle began to climb out of the cage.  Wolfe crawled his way to the door and ALMOST got out before Angle, but Angle was able to escape first.  It was an awesome match that finished their feud.

11. NWA World Heavyweight Championship #1 Contership: Steel Cage: Abyss vs. AJ Styles from Lockdown 2005

The main event on the first Lockdown, the most dangerous PPV of the year where every match took place inside a steel cage.  Well only part of this match did.  When Abyss came out, AJ jumped through the door and attacked him, and they were fighting through the crowd and went all over the place.  Eventually, they fought their way back to the cage and started fighting there.  Both men were doing great moves, involving the Styles Clash into tacks, the Black hole slam into tacks, and Abyss rapping a chain around AJ and holding him over the side of the cage.  I said earlier that they basically killed each other, and I wasn’t kidding.  The finish came when AJ did a sunset flip piledriver on Abyss from the top of the cage into tacks and pinned him.  AJ later went on to win the NWA World title from Jeff Jarrett at Hard Justice 2005.

10. TNA World Heavyweight Championship: Steel Cage: Bobby Roode (c) vs. James Storm from Lockdown 2012

I said earlier that I pretty much stopped watching TNA when Hogan came in, but this was a match I had to see.  I found it online, and it did not disappoint.  Both men went in there and put out one of the best steel cage matches I’ve ever seen.  It probably would of been better if I actually watched the build up to it, but I was still able to enjoy the match.  The ending has Storm hit the Last Call (basically a superkick) on Roode, which knocked him through the door and causing him to hit the floor, resulting in Roode winning the match and retaining the title (despite being unconscious).  Just a fantastic match with a brilliant finish that I’m glad I found online.  I considered starting to watch TNA again after how good this match was, but with how bad some of their booking choices have been, I decided not to.

9. 30 Minute Iron Man Match: Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe from Final Resolution 2007

Their third match, which I consider the best of their matches.  They went in and preformed an amazing match for 30 minutes.  Kurt demanded the match after tapping out to Joe at Turning Point 2006, and Joe eventually accepted.  Angle won 3-2, though for the final 20 seconds, Joe had Kurt in the ankle lock.  About a second after the clock ran out, Angle tapped out, but he still technically won the match, so I was pleased.

8. Last Man Standing: Kurt Angle vs. AJ Styles

The match that kind of ended their never ending feud.  It was pretty much the end of that chapter of their feud.  It was an incredible match where both men looked amazing.  There were a few times though were Angle looked weak, such as when he tapped out to the Ankle Lock.  That just annoyed me.  But he made up for it in other sections, such as a summersault (I spelled that wrong) from the top ramp onto AJ (I guess is the best way to describe it).  Angle may not always seem it since he always tries to be more of a technical wrestler, but he can pull off some really high risk moves.  AJ won the match after hitting a DDT from off the top rope and AJ was unable to answer the 10 count.  Angle was laying there barely moving and medics came out to take him out on a stretcher.  I’m not sure if this was serious or just booked like that, but it still looked like he landed the wrong way.  He seemed fine on following episodes of Impact though, so that’s good.

7. TNA X-Division Championship: AJ Styles (c) vs. Samoa Joe from Turning Point 2005

During Joe’s impressive undefeated streak, he was in the X-Division for the longest time.  He had matches against Christ Sabin, Alex Shelly, Matt Bentley, and most notably, AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels.  After Joe beat the crap out of Daniels, AJ was complaining that he broke the “code of the X-Division” (WHAT CODE!?!?  And AJ & Daniels were bitter enemies, what does he care?) which led to this match.  And it was a great match where Joe was able to look like a monster (despite the hair) while AJ was still able to look good and there were a few times where it looked like the streak was going to come to an end.  That didn’t happen however, and AJ tapped out to the rear naked choke which Joe continued to hold until AJ passed out.  He was going to put AJ out like he did to Daniels, but Daniels came out and stopped him.  That sucks.

6. Kurt Angle vs. Jeff Jarrett from Genesis 2009

After Angle was cheated out of a victory at Bound for Glory IV (which was a great match despite the finish), Angle demanded a rematch.  But Jarrett was a coward and refused to fight him, until Angle finally got him in the ring at this PPV.  And they pretty much went out there and almost killed each other (more so than AJ & Abyss did).  It was a great match where both men looked strong, and there was a ton of offense from both sides.  Angle hit the Olympic Slam on Jeff through a table from the top ramp.  They both crawled back to the ring and continued to beat the crap out of each other.  We even saw how cheaply made Jeff’s guitar is (he must have a warehouse full of these things) as it was broken before anyone hit anyone with it.  The ending was a bit anti-climatic, but they made up for it afterwards with the beat down Angle gave Jarrett.  Just an awesome match that gave Angle a bit of revenge after Jarrett won at BFG.

5. TNA World Heavyweight Championship: King of the Mountain Match: Mick Foley (c) vs. AJ Styles vs. Jeff Jarrett vs. Samoa Joe vs. Kurt Angle

Man, never though I’d be putting any of Foley’s matches on this list, let alone this high on the list.  But this was a great match and the best King of the Mountain match TNA has put on.  Everyone in the Match looked good, with the possible exception of Foley (but this is his best TNA match).  Everyone went out there and did their best, and there was even some nice humor (such as Angle wearing a Pittsburgh Penguins jersey in Detroit the day after the Penguins beat Detroit’s hockey team [which I forget the name of]).  Foley was kind of out there in the match, because he started the match wanting to stay on the ladder and not get involved, then gave Jarrett a pin over him so he could go to the Penalty Box and couldn’t be hurt there, then got choked out by Joe.  He was either getting his butt kicked or doing some crazy move (such as jumping off the penalty box, which looked a lot better when someone like Chris Sabin was doing it).  And it also made no sense why AJ & Joe kept trying to stop each other from winning the match (though Joe trying to stop him later made sense after the finish).  Despite my complaining though, this was a fantastic match and the best King of the Mountain match.  I also love the finish with Joe letting Kurt win the match and Joe joining the Main Event Mafia.  It also made Kurt the ONLY man to be undefeated in the King of the Mountain match, and ended Jarret’s streak.

4. TNA X-Division Championship: 30 Minute Iron Man Match: AJ Styles (c) vs. Christopher Daniels

The first ever one on one meeting between these two in TNA (I’ve heard somewhere that as of right now they’ve faced each other 115 times.  Everything special about these two in the ring has been taken away) and (as far as I know) Daniel’s first shot at the X-Division championship.  This was an amazing match and is by far the best X-Division match TNA has ever had (screw the AJ/Joe/Daniels 3-Way).  They put on an amazing match with each man looking great.  It ended in a 1-1 tie, but Daniels demanded an overtime which was given.  AJ ended up coming back and beating him, resulting in him retaining the title.  This is just an amazing match that really shows how good the X-Division is.  Luckily, Daniels won the title the following month at Destination X in an Ultimate X match (AJ had the belt pulled down, but Daniels hit the Angel Wings, took the belt, revived the referee and won the match & title).

3. Texas Death Match: James Storm vs. Chris Harris from Sacrifice 2007

A violent, bloody match with tons of history behind it.  For years, they were America’s Most Wanted, TNA’s best tag team and 6 time NWA World Tag Team Champions (and the longest reigning champs when TNA had possession of the belts).  They faced LAX in a match for the belts where the loosing team was forced to disband.  AMW lost when James Storm hit Harris in the face with a beer bottle.  Harris eventually returned for a blindfold match at Lockdown (which I haven’t seen) and this incredible match.  Pretty much everything was done right in this match.  My biggest complaint is that James Storm really should have won.  But I won’t complain, as the match was still great and by far match of the year in 2007.

2. Street Fight: James Storm vs. Bobby Roode at Bound for Glory 2012

This is another one that I had to see and was able to find.  This is simply an amazing match that doesn’t get enough credit.  This is the best match TNA has had in years, both men going in there and putting up the fight of their lives.  Nothing more needs to be said than this is simply an amazing match and I can only think of one match TNA has had that’s better…

1. Six Sides of Steel: America’s Most Wanted (James Storm & Chris Harris) vs. Triple X (Christopher Daniels & Elix Skipper) from Turning Point 2004

This is the epic conclusion to America’s Most Wanted and Triple X’s never ending feud.  And it is by far the best steel cage match I’ve seen.  Everything about this match was perfect, from the build up to their performances to the finish.  It has the best move in Elix Skipper’s entire career where he walks across the top of the cage and preforms a hurricanrana on Chris Harris.  Other moves using the cage were amazing, everything from powerbombs to the Death Sentence (AMW’s signature move) to simply shoving someone’s head into the side of the cage.  The finish to the match is great, with Chris Harris being hand cuffed to the cage while Triple X double teams Storm (and shoves the key into his forehead).  Storm eventually is able to free Harris and cuff Daniels to the cage.  Storm & Harris hit the Power-Plex, Triple X’s own signature move, on Skipper and pin him, disbanding Triple X in what was suppose to be forever (though they later got lazy and brought them back in 2007).  This is simply a fantastic match and the best TNA has ever had in my opinion.

There’s my top 25 list.  Any of your favorites not make the list?  Feel free to leave some in the comment.

2012 Comic Book Awards

Title speaks for itself. It’s a new annual thing I decided to do.  I realize that this should of been put up in January, but still.  Anyway, here we go. Remember, these are all MY opinions. If you disagree, don’t complain.

Best Writer of 2012

Geoff Johns

Geoff Johns

Johns has been giving us epics all year long with Aquaman, Green Lantern, and Justice League. And after his work on Flashpoint, how is this guy not writing the Flash? Anyway, Johns takes home writer of the year.

Second place: Scott Snyder (while I personally feel his work on Batman is overrated, he is a great writer and deserves to be on here)

Third Place: Brian Azzarello

Best Ongoing Series of 2012

Wonder Woman

Wonder Woman

Wonder Woman has just been truly amazing. It has an actual story form, it gives WW a great new costume, and it’s just down right good. Not to mention it gave us the return of Orion.

Second Place: Aquaman

Third Place: TIE: Batman/The Amazing Spider-Man

Thor: God of Thunder would be on here, however, we only got 3 issues of it in 2012. Though it will probably be in next year.

Best Single Issue of 2012

Thor: God of Thunder #3

Thor: God of Thunder #3

It was just an amazing issue. After Two nice issues, Thor: God of Thunder got even better with number 3. While I personally liked #4 more, that was published in 2013.

Second Place: Batman #11

Third Place: The Amazing Spider-Man #700

Best Male Hero of 2012



This is NOT my personal favorite. My favorite character is Thor, though he was a punching bag most of the year. Aquaman gets #1. He went out there, and proved to everyone how f*cking awesome he can be and that he’s more than just a joke. Not to mention he just looks epic.

Second Place: Spider-Man

Third place: Batman

Best Female Hero of 2012

Wonder Woman

Wonder Woman

No one else deserves the spot. Just, no one did anything that impressive.

Second Place: Catwoman

Third Place: Ms. Marvel

Best Male Villain of 2012



Who the Hell else deserves this spot? Everything Joker has done in 2012? Well, he only had two or three appearances, but still.

Second Place: Dr. Octopus

Third Place: Dr. Doom

Best Female Villain of 2012



Gonna be honest: Not much to say here.

Second Place: Hera

Third Place: Poison Ivy

Best New Character of 2012


Not much to say. Again….

Not much to say. Again….

Second Place: H’el (almost took first)

Third Place: Simon Baz

Best Team of 2012

Justice League

Justice League

I know, a Justice League with no Martian Manhunter is absolutely ridiculous. But they have been the best team this year. I don’t even think it’s possible to keep track of the dozens of Avengers and X-men teams, so who else is there for #1? Even though they’re missing the heart of the League.

Second Place: Fantastic Four

Third Place: Thunderbolts

Best Costume of 2012



Superman’s costume is just truly epic. There were A LOT of contenders for this one. I choose Superman for number one because his Pre-Flashpoint costume was horrible in every way, while it’s been massively improved here.

There are so many other contenders, I’ll just list them:

  • Thor
  • Wonder Woman
  • Batman
  • Nightwing
  • Deadpool
  • The Punisher
  • Iron Man

Most Awesome Looking Team of 2012



Don’t they just look awesome? It’s just a perfect looking team. Black & Red are perfect together.

Second Place: Fantastic Four.

Third Place: Justice League Dark

Best Comic Movie of 2012

The Avengers

The Avengers

I LOVED The Dark Knight Rises. I loved everything about it. It’s the greatest film DC has ever made, animated or live action. But The Avengers was a better comic book movie, plus I just liked it more.

Now, there will not be a second or third place thing, because there were only two good comic movies this year. The Avengers and The Dark Knight Rises.

Best Comic Television Series of 2012



It’s an amazing show, and the greatest thing seen on TV in YEARS. I love Avengers: EMH, Young Justice, Justice League (Unlimited), and others, but none of those compare to this. If you have not watched Arrow yet, WATCH IT NOW!

Second Place: The Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes!

Third Place: Young Justice/Young Justice: Invasion

Best Moment of 2012

Justice League Formation

Justice League Formation

This was just a truly epic moment. The formation of the Justice League.

Second Place: The Return of the Joker in Batman #13

Third Place: Superman gets an awesome costume in Action Comics #5 or 6 (I forget(

Master of PIS in 2012



Batman is and always will be the Master of PIS. He’ll be taking home the award EVERY year unless something changes.

Second Place: Captain Cold.

Third Place: Every other one of Flash’s villains (except Professor Zoom. But I think he’s gone).

Worst Moment of 2012

New 52 Power Girl

New 52 Power Girl

As bad as it was seeing some of our favorite characters gone in the New 52 (my big sad is Stephanie Brown), what they did to Power Girl was an atrocity (is that the right word?). It’s an insult to the name, and it the worst moment in 2012 comics.

Second Place: Stephanie Brown and Wally West still erased from history.

Third Place: Cyclops killing Professor Xavier in Avengers vs X-Men.

Worst Comic Movie of 2012

The Amazing Spider-Man

The Amazing Spider-Man

This movie was just terrible. Downright TERRIBLE. It gets the worst comic movie of 2012. For more, look at my review.

Worst Comic Television of 2012

Ultimate Spider-Man

Ultimate Spider-Man

Just… wow. When I first heard about the series, I was happy. I had been reading the Ultimate Spider-Man comics and loving them, and I loved the character Spidey. So, I gave it a try. Worst. Show. Ever. Okay, maybe not that bad. But still horrible. I can’t believe they cancelled the Spectacular Spider-Man for this.

Most Underrated Comic Series of 2012

My God, what is with all the hate for Catwoman? It’s spectacular. Better than the Batman ongoing. Yes, this cover may not be the most flattering, but still…

Second Place: Superman (why do people hate it before #0)

Third Place: Blue Beetle (I like it more than the previous two, although it doesn’t get a lot of hate, so it’s not #1. It’s underrated people because never bring it up. They never shut up about Batman)

Most Improved Character of 2012

Billy Batson/Captain Marvel/Shazam

Billy Batson/Captain Marvel/Shazam

I never liked Billy. I found him annoying. Though he’s awesome in the New 52. I would of given it to Superman or Aquaman, though those two made their improvements in 2011, right before 2012. But Billy didn’t debut again until 2012. So, yeah.

Second Place: Thor (he was a punching bag most of the year, though it took three issues for him to improve)

Third Place: ???

Well, that’s my 2012 Comic Awards. Be sure to be here next year for the 2013 Comic Awards.

The Greatest Comic Book Movies Never Made

Okay, the title is a little misleading. The reasoning being that I’m ranking all of the unmade comic films. I’m taking all the unmade comic movies (though I’d be willing to place money that I forgot some) that were in production, but were simply abandoned for one reason or another, and ranking them in the order of how good they sounded. I’ll also be giving a little background on the film. So, let’s start.

25. Superman Lives

What is it?: Following the failure of Superman IV: The Quest for Peace, DC and Warner Bros. had several films in production to try and revive Superman onto the big screen. The film would of been based off of the successful Death of Superman story arc. The film would of featured Brainiac and Doomsday as the villains, along with Lex Luthor. The plot involves Superman dying at the hands of Doomsday until being by a robot named the Eradicator. The film was set for a release date in summer of 1998, which was also the 60 year anniversary of Superman’s debut in Action Comics.

What happened?: The film was in production for a while. Kevin Smith wrote the first script for the film in 1996, under the conditions that Superman couldn’t fly, had to wear a black costume, and had to fight a giant spider in the climax. This was the beginning of the end. As time went on, the film became worse and worse, whether it was casting Nicholas Cage as Superman and Tim Allen as Brainac or whether it was Brainiac stealing Mr. Burns’ plot to block out the sun using a giant disc (high five if you get that reference). The script kept getting rewrites and the plot kept being changed for the film. The release date kept getting pushed back until Nicholas Cage dropped out in 2000. In October 2000, Keith Giffen attempted to give a treatment for the film involving Lobo as the main villain, though it was not picked up. In February 2002, the project was officially abandoned when J. J. Abrams was hired to write a new script which would of ignored the Death of Superman and reboot the franchise, with the reboot being named Superman: Flyby.

Is it a good thing the film was never made?: Yes it is. I didn’t go into too much detail for the film, but it’s even worse than how I described it. If it had been made, I think it would of permanently killed the superhero film business, regardless of how successful Marvel was with X-Men or Spider-Man.

24. She-Hulk

Brigitte Nielsen as She-Hulk

Brigitte Nielsen as She-Hulk

What is it?: Following the success of The Incredible Hulk TV Series, Marvel attempted to give She-Hulk her own TV Series, though it was announced “dead” by ABC in 1991. Marvel decided to attempt to bring She-Hulk to the big screen in the early 1990s with Larry Cohen as writer and director while Brigitte Nielsen was set to play She-Hulk.

What happened?: Little is known about the film with the exception of writer, director, and who would play She-Hulk. Nielsen did appear in a few pictures as She-Hulk (shown above) and Jennifer Walters. The film was simply abandoned with no explanation.

Is it a good thing the film was never made?: Probably. She-Hulk does have a large fan base, but I seriously doubt she could hold her own film. Plus the pics we got of Nielsen as She-Hulk were horrible and didn’t even look like her.

23. Spider-Man (1985)

This is not what Spider-Man was going to look like in the film, I just wanted to show him as a giant spider

This is not what Spider-Man was going to look like in the film, I just wanted to show him as a giant spider

What is it?: 2002’s Spider-Man was in production for well over a decade until being released. In 1985, the rights to Spider-Man were bought by Cannon Films for $225,000 and a percentage of the profit. The rights would of reverted back to Marvel if the film was not made by April 1990. Cannon chiefs Menahem Golan and his cousin Yoram Golan were going to have the film about a scientist intentionally subjecting ID-Badge photographer Peter Parker to radioactive bombardment, transforming him into a giant, suicidal, eight-armed monster. The human spider refuses to join the scientist’s new master-race of mutants, battling a succession of mutations kept in a basement laboratory.

What Happened?: It turns out that Menahem and Yoram misunderstood the concept of Spider-Man, thus leading to this idea. Unhappy with the plot, Spider-Man creator Stan Lee pushed for a new story and screenplay, resulting in a new origin story involving Dr. Octopus. The idea of Peter transforming into a giant spider monster was later used in a 14 part episode of the 1994 Spider-Man animated series.

Is it a good thing the film was never made?: Yes. People criticize films like Batman Returns for ruining the characters (only example I could think of, I loved Returns and didn’t care about the changes), but this is just MUCH worse. It ruins what Spider-Man is suppose to be and I think would of prevented him from getting his epic Sam Raimi trilogy in the 2000s.

22. Superman V

What is it?: Before the massive failure of Superman IV: The Quest for Peace, Cannon Films considered doing a fifth film directed by Albert Pyun. Cannon’s bankruptcy resulted in the rights reverting to Ilya and Alexander Salkind. Ilya wrote the script for Superman V (also known as Superman: The New Movie), featuring a plot involving Superman dying and being resurrected in the shrunken, bottled Krypton city of Kandor. Christopher Reeve was set to reprise the role.

What happened?: Following the massive failure of Superman IV: The Quest for Peace and the success of The Death and Return of Superman comic book, Warner Bros. purchased the film rights to Superman in 1993, leading to the planned film Superman Lives (see 24).

Is it a good thing the film was never made?: Probably. Superhero films’ reputation was low due to the failures of Superman III, Superman IV: The Quest for Peace, and Howard the Duck. Add the terrible plot to it, and it might of killed superhero films even more. Plus, how many good films have actually had good fifth movies (or fourth for that matter?)?

21. Superman Reborn

Don't have any pics for this, so I just posted a random one. That's a very cool car.

Don’t have any pics for this, so I just posted a random one. That’s a very cool car.

What is it?: Before Superman Lives entered production, Warner Bros. had plans for Superman Reborn, also based off of The Death of Superman. The film would of had a kid-friendly approach, similar to Batman Forever. The film would of involved Clark Kent’s relationship troubles with Lois Lane and Superman’s battle with Doomsday. Just as Superman dies, he professes his love to Lois and his life force jumps between them. Lois has a virgin birth, and the child grows to become 21 years old in 3 weeks, becoming the resurrected Superman and saves the world.

What happened?: Warner Bros. did not like the script because of too many similar themes from Batman Forever. The script was rewritten, with a new plot involving Brainiac creating Doomsday who was infused with kryptonite blood. Clark still has relationship problems with Lois and goes to a psychiatrist until being killed by Doomsday. An alien named Cadmus steals Superman’s corpse and brings him back to life to defeat Brainiac. Superman wears a robotic costume that would mimic his old powers until he could use his old powers again, which according to the script, are a mental discipline called “Phin-yar.” Other villains included Parasite and Silver Banshee. The script impressed Warner Bros., but Kevin Smith was hired to rewrite, because he though the script did not respect the comic books. His rewrite resulted in Superman Lives, which was never made.

Is it a god thing this film was never made?: I think so. Really no reason for it to by made other than to cash in on the success of the Death of Superman storyline.

20. Batman Triumphant

Fan-made poster

Fan-made poster

What is it?: Before Batman & Robin was released, Warner Bros. planned to do a fifth film in the Batman franchise called Batman Triumphant, where Joel Schumacher would of returned to direct with George Clooney and Chris O’ Donnel reprising their roles as Batman and Robin. The film would of featured Scarecrow as the main villain, along with Harley Quinn as the Joker’s daughter who wanted revenge against Batman for Joker’s death. Jack Nicholson would of returned to play the Joker in a hallucination created by Scarecrow’s fear gas. Nicolas Cage, Steve Buscemi, Ewan McGregor and Jeff Goldblum were all rumored to play Scarecrow while Madonna was Schumacher’s first choice to play Harley. Alice Silverstone would of presumably reprised her role as Batgirl for the film also. Mad Hatter and Man-Bat were also rumored to appear.

What happened?: Batman & Robin happened. The critical and financial failure caused Warner Bros. to abandon Triumphant and work on ways to reboot the franchise.

Is it a good thing the film was never made?: Absolutely. The Batman franchise was already dead thanks for Batman Forever and Batman & Robin, we didn’t need another horrible Batman movie. In the long run, cancelling the film also gave us Christopher Nolan’s Batman trilogy which gave us The Dark Knight Rises, so it was good for everyone.

19. Venom

What is it?: Following Spider-Man 3, Avi Arad confirmed a Venom spin-off. Jacob Aaron Estes was set to write a script and Stan Lee could of cameoed.

What happened?: Nothing happened, which was the problem. After Estes dropped the project in 2008, Paul Wernick and Rhett Reese were signed to write. They announced that they had two drafts and that the Studio was pushing the film forward. But they never did. In 2009, Gary Ross (who wrote the latest draft of Spider-Man 4) was hired to rewrite the script, with his script featuring Venom as an anti-hero instead of a villain. After that, nothing happened. No cast or director was signed on, no filming began, etc. Currently, Sony is considering a Venom film which would take place in the same universe as The Amazing Spider-Man and feature Flash Thompson as Venom.

Is it a good thing the film was never made?: While I do love Venom and think this could be a great debut for Carnage, I don’t think Venom could hold his own film (especially with this Flash Thompson crap). I hope I’m wrong and we get a good Venom movie (with Eddie Brock), but I seriously doubt it.

18. Batman vs. Superman

I know there's a better fan made pic out there,but I couldn't find it

I know there’s a better fan made pic out there,but I couldn’t find it

What is it?: While Superman: Flyby and Batman: Year One were in production, Andrew Kevin Walker pitched a film called Batman vs Superman. Warner Bros. put Superman: Flyby and Batman: Year One on hold to work on this film. The studio hired Akiva Goldsman to write the the script. His plot had Bruce Wayne in retirement for five years, with Dick Grayson, Alfred, and Commissioner Gordon all dead. Meanwhile, Clark Kent has recently gone through a divorce with Lois Lane. Clark is the best man at Bruce’s wedding to Elizabeth Miller. During their honeymoon, Elizabeth is killed by the Joker, forcing Bruce to put on the batsut once again while Clark begins a romance with Lana Lang in Smallville. Bruce blames Clark for Elizabeth’s death and the two fight each other. However, Lex Luthor is revealed to be behind the entire plot and the two decide to team up and stop Luthor. Johnny Depp, Colin Farrell, James Franco, Jude Law and Paul Walker were all considered for both the roles, until the studio eventually offered Christian Bale the role of Batman and Josh Hartnett the role of Superman.

What happened?: The film was to begin shooting 2003 set for a mid-2004 release date. However, Warner Bros. (thankfully) decided to stop production and reintroduce Superman and Batman into their own separate franchises. Superman: Flyby resumed production, while Warner Bros. started making Batman Begins. A billboard showing both the Superman symbol in the Batman symbol appeared in the film I Am Legend.

Is it a good thing this film was never made?: Yeah. While I do think you could pull off a successful Superman/Batman film, this is not the way to do it. Plus, a straight up fight between these two is ridiculous, because Batman would be killed. It could of worked, but the script would of needed a massive rewrite.

17. Justice League: Mortal

Closest thing I found to a pic that works, only this looks epic. Except for Wonder Woman

Closest thing I found to a pic that works, only this looks epic. Except for Wonder Woman

What is it?: In February 2007, Warner Bros. hired Kieran and Michele Mulroney to write a script for a Justice League movie. The script was handed in June 2007 and got positive feedback from the studio. George Miller signed on to direct that September. The film was put on hold in 2008 due to the 2007-2008 Writers Guild of America Strike. The cast would of featured Adam Brody as The Flash (Barry Allen), D. J. Cotrona as Superman, Common as Green Lantern (John Stewart), Megan Gale as Wonder Woman, Armie Hammer as Batman, Santiago Cabrera as Aquaman, and Hugh Keays as Martian Manhunter, as well as Maxwell Lord and Talia al Ghul as the villains.

What happened?: Warner Bros. kept backing up the film and when shooting would begin. In August 2008, The Wall Street Journal reported that Warner Bros’ new plan was to release a few solo movies before doing a JL movie (hm… where have I heard that idea before?). In 2010, George Miller officially confirmed its cancellation. Warner Bros. is currently making another Justice League movie after the success of The Avengers, aiming for a 2015 release date (which would make the film rushed).

Is it a good thing this film was never made?: Really doesn’t matter since now they’re working on another JL movie now. I will say I think the cast is terrible, and there have to be better choices for villains than Talia & Maxwell (though I do like them both). To me, Warner Bros. should just forget JL for now and work on Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and The Flash.

16. Aquaman

Terrible fan-made poster

Terrible fan-made poster

What is it?: Little is known about this Aquaman film. In 2004, it was reported that Warner Bros. wanted to make an Aquaman movie written by Ben Grant.

What happened?: Not much. Which didn’t mean it was made. I don’t even think a script was ever written. Currently, Aquaman is “in production” like SO MANY other DC characters. I really don’t have much to say here.

Is it a good thing this film was never made?: I have no clue, because nothing is known about the film. I’d love an Aquaman movie, but I don’t see it happening any time soon.

15. Untitled Superman Returns Sequel

Fan-made art for what could of been

Fan-made art for what could of been

What is it?: Four months before the release of Superman Returns in 2006, Warner Bros. announced a 2009 release date for a sequel, with Bryan Singer returning as director, along with Brandon Routh, Kate Bosworth, Kevin Specy, Sam Huntington, Frank Langella, and Tristana Lake returning. Brainiac and Bizarro were considered for the villains, while the “New Krypton” floating in space would of served as a plot device (haven’t seen Returns, so I don’t know what they’re talking about).

What happened?: Superman Returns received mostly positive reviews (though most people I see on this site hate it), though Warner Bros. were disappointed at how much it made in the Box Office, saying it should of make $500,000,000. This was the beginning of the end. Filming was suppose to begin in 2007, though Singer stopped production to work on Valkyrie. Filming was pushed back to March 2008, though the writers for the film also left. The 2007-2008 Writers Guild of America strike pushed the release date to 2010. Routh’s contrack for a sequel expired in 2009, while Singer left in favor of directing Jack the Giant Killer and Battlestar Galactica. Warner Bros. decided to abandon the film and begin rebooting Superman, resulting in the upcoming Man of Steel.

Is it a good thing this film was never made?: I’m not sure. I haven’t seen Superman Returns, so I have no clue if it was a good movie or not. I do like the idea of Brainiac and Bizarro finally getting roles on the big screen. I’m not sure how Man of Steel will turn out. If it’s good (which I hope it is), then it’s probably a good thing this film was never made.

14. James Cameron’s Spider-Man

Not sure what this pic is. It was for the film, so that's why it's hear.

Not sure what this pic is. It was for the film, so that’s why it’s hear.

What is it?: Spider-Man was in production since 1985. I’ve given the 85 plot with Peter turning into a giant spider monster, but that wasn’t the only plot. Several films were in production until Sam Raimi’s 2002 film. I won’t go into detail about ones with Arnold Schwarzenegger as Dr. Octopus (I don’t envy the writer who had to come up with Octopus puns) and others, but I felt this was worth a mention. The film would of featured Electro (Carlton Strand) as a megalomaniacal parody of corrupt capitalists, along with Sandman (Boyd) who is mutated by an accident involving Philadelphia Experiment-style bilocation and atom-mixing. The climax would of been a battle on top of the World Trade Center and Spider-Man revealing his identity as Peter Parker to Mary Jane. They then would of had sex on top of the Brooklyn Bridge, because why not?

What happened?:Cameron was suppose to make the film with Carolco Pictures. However, Carolco stopped production on Spider-Man due to financial and legal problems, leaving the film in developmental hell for several more years.

Is it a good thing this film never happened?: Yes. It’s just… ugh. Interesting I admit, but not in a good way.

If you want to check out the storyboards for the film, you can see them here:

13. Shazam!



What is it?: In the early 2000s, New Line Cinema began production on a Shazam! film, with early drafts of the script written by William Goldman & Bryan Goluboff, while later scripts were written by John August. Peter Segal was set to direct the film while WWE Wrestler Dwayne Johnson, a/k/a/ “The Rock,” was in talks to play Black Adam. Shazam! was originally set to be made by New Line Cinema, which was absorbed into Warner Bros. during pre-production.

What happened?: Following the success of Warner’s darker themed film The Dark Knight, and the failure of their lighter kid-firendly Speed Racer, John August left the project when he was forced to make it more like The Dark Knight‘s serious tone. In 2009, it was announced that Geoff Johns was set to write the film, while Segal was still set to direct. However, in August 2010, Los Angeles Times columnist Geoff Boucher reported that discussions had begun to cancel the film and do a live action series instead.

Is it a good thing the film was never made?: No clue. Captain Marvel (or Shazam) could have a good film, but this was just stuck in developmental hell for years with nothing but the writer and director officially confirmed. I do think that Geoff Johns could write an amazing movie, but still.

12. Daredevil 2

Don't do this Marvel...

Don’t do this Marvel…

Okay, this is technically a proposed film than a film that entered production but was never made. But either way, it’s here.

What is it?: Following the generally mixed reception of Daredevil, it was still profitable enough to consider a sequel. There were talks about basing it off of the Born Again storyline, as well as Mr. Fear being the main villain. Michael Clarke Duncan expressed interest in returning for the role of King, but saying that he would not be willing to gain wait. Duncan suggested that the plot involve Kingpin having been training in jail to become faster in combat against Daredevil as a away to work his weight loss into the story.

What happened?: The film never really started to be made, thus it’s hard to say exactly what happened. Ben Affleck said that would never reprise the role of Daredevil, feeling that “by playing a superhero in Daredevil, I have inoculated myself from ever playing another superhero… Wearing a costume was a source of humiliation for me and something I wouldn’t want to do again soon.” It is probable that he made this decision after receiving a Razzie Award for his performance as Daredevil. In July 2008, Jason Statham expressed interest in appearing as Daredevil, and Frank Miller even said he should be Daredevil. In October 2008, talk of a reboot came up, though none was officially announced. On October 10, 2012, the rights to Daredevil reverted back to Marvel, who has said that they want to do a reboot. A reboot has not been officially confirmed, though it appears Marvel will happen at some point in the future.

Is it a good thing this movie was never made?: Not sure. I haven’t read Born Again, but it sounds like a very cool storyline that would make a great plot for a film. Mr. Fear would also be cool to see. I think that if they fixed the mistakes from the first film, I think it could of been a great movie. If not, I think it might of been worse.

11. The Batman by Tom Mankiewicz

What is it?: Before Tim Burton’s successful film Batman in 1989, there was a script written in 1983 by Tom Makiewicz, writer of three James Bond movies and had an uncredited hand in the scripts for Superman and Superman II. The film would of featured Batman’s origin story, along with him teaming up with Robin to take on the Joker and Rupert Thorne. The film would of also featured Silver St. Cloud as the love interest. A 1985 release date was announced with a budget of $20,000,000. The film would of combined a more darker atmosphere along with a more lighter tone, like in Superman.

What happened?: Nothing. At the time, Warner Bros. wouldn’t commit to a semi-serious Batman movie. In 1986, director Tim Burton was added to the project while Warren Skaaren and Sam Hamm wrote the script, giving us the masterpiece known as Batman in 1989. Mankiewicz went on to write Ladyhawke and Dragnet.

Is it a good thing this movie was never made?: Yes and no. I say no, because it sounds like a very good movie that I would of definitely watched. I say yes because it gave us Tim Burton’s Batman in 1989. So both some good and bad came out of this movie not being made.

I’m not sure if it’s the true script or not (I’m 95% sure it is, but I could be wrong), and I don’t know if it’s any good, but here’s the revised first draft for the script if you’d like to have a read:

10. Spider-Man 4

One of so many fan-made posters

One of so many fan-made posters

What is it?: In 2007, Spider-Man 4 entered development, serving as the fourth film of the series with Sam Raimi set to return as directer while Toby Maguire and the other cast members were set to return. In October 2007, James Vanderbilt was hired to write the script, and Sony encouraged Vanderbilt to write scripts for Spider-Man 5 and Spider-Man 6. As time went on, Raimi expressed interest in turning Curt Connors into the Lizard in the film. It was reported in 200 what John Malkovich was in negotiations to play Vulture, while Anne Hathaway would play Felicia Hardy. However, Felicia wouldn’t become Black Cat like she did in the comics. Instead, she would become a new villain called the Vultress.

What happened?: The film kept getting pushed back. Originally set for a May 2009 release date, it had to be bumped back to May 6, 2011. With several rewrites for the script, it looked like the film was not going to be ready for the release date. In January 2010, Sony announced that Spider-Man 4 had been cancelled following Raimi leaving the project. Raimi said that he left the film due to his doubt that he could meet the planned release date while keeping the film as good as he could. He said that he was “very unhappy” with the way Spider-Man 3 turned out, and wanted the fourth film to be the best of the series to end on a high note.

Is it a good thing this film wasn’t made?: I’m kind of torn on this. I loved Spider-Man 3 and thought it was epic, and I couldn’t wait for a fourth film. If the film was made, we never would of gotten the horrible The Amazing Spider-Man movie last summer, thus no one would wanted to tear their eyes out. However, looking at this film, it does not seem good (why was Felicia Hardy going to become Vultress?). Plus, how many franchises have had successful fourth movies (look at Superman and Batman). So, I think whether this was made or not, we would of gotten a bad Spider-Man movie. But at least we would of gotten GOOD acting out of this one (Andrew Garfield was just horrible). So, I’ll say it’s a bad thing this film wasn’t made.

9. Tim Burton’s Catwoman

I would of loved to see her again

I would of loved to see her again

What is it?: Following Batman Returns, Tim Burton was set to direct two more movies in the Batman franchise. An untitled third Batman (we know that fate of that), and a Catwoman spin-off, where Catwoman would once again be played by Michelle Pfeiffer. Daniel Waters wrote the script for the film, and turned it in on June 6, 1995.

What happened?: June 6, 1995 was the same day that Batman Forever came out, which took the Batman franchise in a different direction, making a family-friendly film that eliminated the darker tone of Batman Returns. Walters joked and said “turning it in the day Batman Forever opened may not have been my best logistical move, in that it’s the celebration of the fun-for-the-whole-family Batman. Catwoman is definitely not a fun-for-the-whole-family script.” The film was stuck in developmental hell for years, resulting in Catwoman being recasted twice. The first time with Ashley Judd, the next Halle Berry, resulting in Catwoman in 2004, which is generally considered one of the worst films of all time and has nothing to do with the character Catwoman (Selina Kyle).

Is it a good thing this film wasn’t made?: No. Warner Bros. would of been better off trying to get the original Tum Burton Catwoman film released then creating something that’s considered one of the worst films of all time. Plus, why would you cast Halle Berry as Catwoman? That’s just… off.

8. Batman: DarKnight

What is it?: Following the massive failure of Batman & Robin and the cancellation of Batman Triumphant, this was another fifth film in the Batman franchise that would of once again been directed by Joel Scumucher, feeling that he owed Batman fans a real Batman movie. The film would of featured Bruce Wayne in self-imposed exile after loosing the ability to strike fear into his enemies as Batman (I don’t know. I’d be pretty scared after Batman Forever and Batman & Robin). Dick Grayson would be attending Gotham Academy, where Johnathan Crane is conducting experiments with fear. Crane’s run-in with Dr. Kirk Langstrom reults in Kirk becoming the terrifying Man-Bat. The citizens of Gotham think that Man-Bat is Batman’s “bloodthirsty” return. Bruce once again becomes Batman to clear his name and solve the mystery of the Man-Bat.

What happened?: Not much. Warner Bros. simply based the idea in favor of making either Batman Beyond or Batman: Year One.

Is it a good thing this film wasn’t made?: Overall, I think it might of been. I do LOVE the idea of Scarecrow & Man-Bat as the villains of a Batman movie, but I’m not sure how well the film would of done after Batman & Robin, no matter who the director was or how dark it was.

7. Green Arrow: Super Max

Also titled Green Arrow: Escapse from Super Max.

I wonder, could the movie of been as awesome as this show?

I wonder, could the movie of been as awesome as this show?

What is it?: Most comic book films follow the same formula, a 40 to 60 minute origin, throw in some love interest and villain, and that’s basically it. This one however, would of completely skipped over the origin and jumped right to Green Arrow being thrown in a Maximum Security Prison and trying to escape, and meets several A, B, and C list DC villains on the way. The script was written by David Goyer, who also wrote Batman Begins and Justin Marks.

What happened?: Nothing. The movie is still in production according to DC, though in reality, it’s in developmental hell. In 2008, Marks said during an interview with MTV:

“It’s a very, very awesome prison. I majored in architecture in college, and design is how I actually started in. For ‘Super Max,’ designing that prison, it had to be the kind of thing that was a character in and of itself…We’re in a world where instead of just trying to contain a guy who’s really big, you’re trying to contain a guy who can — in the case of Icicle — who can freeze things. What kind of a cell would a guy like that need in order to have his powers neutralized? So to escape from Super Max they have got to go through the most elaborate heist we’ve ever seen, involving superpowers. Because the prison itself kind of has superpowers!”

Nothing has been said about the film since.

Is it a good thing the film wasn’t made?: I’m a bit torn on that. When written correctly, Green Arrow can be an awesome character. However, he can also be very lame and boring. The concept of the film is very interesting and could of been great. However, it’s too easy to completely butcher it and make a horrible film.

6. Batman: Year One

What is it?: An adaption of Frank Miller’s successful graphic novel Batman: Year One. It would of featured Batman’s debut in Gotham and his relationship (not a romantic one) with Commissioner Gordon. Despite Joel Schumacher wanting to direct (hasn’t he ruined Batman enough?), the role of directer went to Darren Aronofsky, who also wrote the script, along with Frank Miller. Their goal was to completely reboot the Batman franchise. Christian Bale was approached for the role of Batman in the film.

What happened?: Batman: Year One ended up being too violent for Warner Bros., as Aronofsky and Miller were aiming for an R-rating (which will never happen for a Batman movie in a million years). The studio wanted a rewrite for the script. However, they abandoned Batman: Year One to work on Batman vs. Superman.

Is it a good thing this film was never made?: Not sure. I’ve never Read Year One, so I can’t say if it’s a good idea to make it into a film or not. I do like that they were finally planning on just doing a full reboot instead of the proposed fifth films. It sounds like it could of been a good movie, but I would of needed to know more.

5. X-Men Origins: Magneto

Would of been EPIC.

A fan-bade blu-ray copy of X-Men Origins: Magneto

A fan-bade blu-ray copy of X-Men Origins: Magneto

What is it?: In December 2004, the X-Men franchise was big and Fox hired Shaldon Turner to do a spin-off X-Men film. He chose to write Magneto. In April 2007, David S. Goyer (man, everyone wants him) was hired to direct. Turner’s script was set from 1939 to 1955, and shows Magneto trying to survive in Auschqitz. He meets a young soldier named Charles Xavier during the liberation of the camp. He hunts down the Nazi war criminals who tortured his. His lust for vengeance ends up turning Xavier and him into enemies. Ian McKellen was set to reprise his role as Magneto, using the computer generated facelift used on him in the opening scene of X-Men: The Last Stand.

What happened?: The film was planned to start filming in Australia for a 2009 release date, though the 2007-2008 Writers Guild of America strike delayed this. The film continued production, including concept art and the official title, but Goyer said in December 2008 that they would only start filming if X-Men Origins: Wolverine was successful. The story and script was drastically changed, now set in 1961 and involving Xavier & Magneto battling a villain. McKellen confirmed in October 2009 that he would not be reprising his role at Magneto due to his age. No news was announced for the film after that, and it was officially cancelled on August 26, 2010. Elements of the film were put into X-Men: First Class.

Is it a good thing this film was never made?: I say no. X-Men Origins: Wolverine was simply… epic (I have no other words to describe it), and Magneto is an even better character than Wolverine. I think it could of been a fantastic film and would of been SO much better than the crappy X-Men: First Class.

4. Tim Burton’s Batman 3

The concept art for Robin in the film, which I love (except for the hair)

The concept art for Robin in the film, which I love (except for the hair)

What is it?: After Batman Returns, Tim Burton was set to return for a third Batman movie (presumably called Batman Forever, though that is still unclear). It would of featured Michael Keaton returning as Batman, as well as Marlon Wayans as Robin, who would of been re-imagined as streetwise black kid, who’s origin would have taken elements from both Dick Grayson and Jason Todd (there was some concept art for the costume, and I think it loos REALLY cool). Robin Williams was offered the role of Riddler, though he turned it down. Billy Dee Williams would of appeared as Harvey Dent, though it is unknown if he would of become Two-Face. Rene Russo would of played Chase Meridian, an original character created for the film and Bruce Wayne’s love interest. Michelle Pfeifer was rumored to return as Catwoman. There were also rumors for Johnny Depp appearing as Mad Hatter and Brad Doruif as Scarecrow, though these were never confirmed. There were also rumors that Robin would of been played by Winona Ryder, and would of been a female and an Amalgam of Dick Grayson and Carrie Kelly (from The Dark Knight Returns).

What happened?: When Warner Bros. learned that Batman 3 was going to be similar to the ultra-dark tone of Batman Returns, they freaked out and replaced Burton with Joel Schumacher as director, who planned to make it more family-friendly Some of the ideas remained the same (such as introducing Robin & Riddler, though their stories were changed), though the cast was completely changed up. Val Kilmer was cast as Batman to replace Michael Keaton (Keaton turned down $15,000,000 to return), Jim Carrey was cast as The Riddler (possibly the worst casting ever in a comic film), Tommy Lee Jones replaced Williams as Harvey Dent (and he became a complete Joker rip-off), Nicole Kidman replaced Rene Russo as Chase Meridian (Russo was deemed too old to play Kilmer’s love interest), and Chris O’ Donell replaced Marlon Wayans as Robin (Warner Bros. paid Wayans to leave the film). The end result being Batman Forever, one of the worst films I have ever seen and THE worst Batman movie ever made (yes, Batman & Robin is better. But not by much).

Is it a good thing this film was never made?: That’s actually a very good question. Yes, Batman Forever was terrible. PLUS, if Forever was never made, we wouldn’t of gotten Batman & Robin. However, if Burton’s film had been made, would we of ever gotten Christopher Nolan’s series down the line? It’s interesting to think about. I will say that some of Burton’s ideas for Batman 3 did seem a bit… out there (like Robin), the same could be said about his ideas for Batman Returns, and look how epic that was.

3. Batman Beyond

One of the MANY fan-made posters

One of the MANY fan-made posters

What is it?: For a brief time, Warner considered doing a film based off of the successful animated series Batman Beyond to reboot the franchise. Taking place in the year 2040, Bruce Wayne has retired as Batman (he’s 80 years old. How would he keep going out at night and doing what he does?) and high schooler Terry McGinnis takes up the mantle of Batman. Paul Dini, who worked on the show (and several other DC Animated stuff), was hired to write the script and Boaz Yakin was hired to direct.

What happened?: Warner Bros. abandoned the idea of Batman Beyond in favor of Batman: Year One and Batman vs. Superman, until finally settling on Batman Begins.

Is it a good thing this film was never made?: Well, if it was made, we probably wouldn’t of gotten the Nolan series. But screw Nolan!!! I want Batman Beyond!!!

2. Superman: Flyby

I’ve mentioned this film several times through out this thing, and now we’re here.

What is it?: Following the cancellation of Superman Lives, Warner Bros. briefly worked on the film until putting it on hold to work on Batman vs. Superman. Following the cancellation of that, Warner Bros. once again began working on Superman: Flyby. The film would of rebooted Superman and given him a new origin story. The planet Krypton is besieged by a civil war going on between Jor-El and his brother Kata-Zor. Before he is sentenced to death, Jor-El launches his son Kal-El to Earth fo fulfull a prophecy. Kal-El is adopted by Jonathan and Martha Kent. When Clark grows up, he begins to work for the Daily Planet and forms a romance with Lois Lane. However, Lois is more interested in exposing Lex Luthor, a government agent obsessed with aliens and UFOs. Clark reveals to himself to the world as Superman, which brings Kata-Zor’s son Ty-Zor and other Kryptonians to Earth. Superman fights them, and is killed in battle. In Kryptonian heaven, Superman meets Jor-El, who committed suicide on Krypton in prison. He’s ressurected, and returns to Earth to defeat Ty-Zor and the other Kryptonians. The film ends with Superman flying off to Krypton, leaving the door open for a sequel. I admit, I did barely summarize the plot, but I got the main point across. Brett Ratner was hired to direct the film, with filming expected to start sometime in 2003. Josh Hartnett and Jude Law were both approached for the role of Superman. The studio was hoping for a summer 2004 release date. Christopher Walken was in talks to play Perry White, Anthony Hopkins Jor-El, and Ralph Fiennes as Lex Luthor. People considered for Superman were Tom Welling (who played a teenage Clark Kent on Smallville), Paul Walker, Ashton Kutcher, Brendan Fraser, Matthew Bomer, Jerry O’ Connell, David Boreanaz, Victor Webster, James Marsden. Joel Edgerton (who turned donw the chance to audition for Superman) auditioned for Ty-Zor.

What happened?: There were a lot of problems with the film during production. Ratner dropped out of the project in March 2003 due to casting difficulties and violent disagreements with Jon Peters. McG was signed on as director. Several actors were considered (including Robert Downey Jr. as Lex Luthor), but none were officially signed on. McG wanted Josh Schwartz to rewrite the Abrams script. He wanted to film in Canada, though Warner Bros. wanted Australia. McG felt it was “inappropriate to try and capture the heart of America on another continent,” though he later admitted that it was his fear of fighting. McG eventually left the project. Abrams attempted to get the chance to direct his script, but Warner Bros. went with Bryan Singer in July 2004, resulting in the cancellation of Superman: Flyby and the making of Superman Returns.

Is it a good thing this film was never made?: I say no. Superman Returns turned out to be a complete waste as it’s already being rebooted. I would of LOVED to see this movie. Yes, it does change up a lot about Superman. However, look at Batman Begins and how much it changed Batman’s origin (h was never trained by Ra’s al Ghul) and how successful that was. From what I’ve read about this film, it strikes me as an 8 out of 10, great, but has flaws. Overall, I think this was just an amazing idea for a Superman film that I wish would of been made. Hopefully Man of Steel is good.

Also, like The Batman, I do not know if this is real or not. However, here is a link to J. J. Abrams’ Superman: Flyby script. I really I had read it before I wrote this. But too late now. Here’s the link:

And now, I present the greatest comic book movie never made…

1. Joss Whedon’s Wonder Woman

You'll wonder why this wasn't made!

You’ll wonder why this wasn’t made!

What is it?: A Wonder Woman movie was in production in 2001, though that did not go anywhere. In March 2005, Warner Bros. and Silver Pictures announced that Joss Whedon would write and direct. For those who don’t know, Whedon wrote and directed The Avengers, the third highest grossing film of all time. With an amazing character like Wonder Woman and the extremely talented Joss Wheadon, how can you go wrong?

What happened?: When Whedon was hired for Wonder Woman, he was directing Serenity. Since he needed time to research Wonder Woman’s background, he was not able to begin the script until late 2005. After nearly two years, Whedon had not managed to write a finished daft for the script. He said “It was in an outline, and not in a draft, and they [studio executives] didn’t like it. So I never got to write a draft where I got to work out exactly what I wanted to do.” In February 2007, Whedon officially left the project due to script differences with the studio and went to work on Goners. Whedon said “I would go back in a heartbeat if I believed that anybody believed in what I was doing. The lack of enthusiasm was overwhelming.” A spec script was bought by Warner Bros. shortly before Whedon departed set during World War II. It was written by Matthew Jennison and Brent Strickland. However, Silver Pictures did not want it to be a period piece. In April 2008, Jennison and Strickland were hired to write a new script which instead of explaining Wonder Woman’s origin would explore the history of Paradise Island. No news of the Wonder Woman film was reported until 2010, saying that it was in production. However, in reality, the film was in developmental hell along with several other DC films.

Is it a good thing this movie was never made?: I say no. Whedon is very talented and could of made an epic Wonder Woman movie. Instead, he left and went on to make Marvel over a billion with The Avengers. Way to go Warner Bros., way to go. Then again, would The Avengers of been as good as it was if Whedon wasn’t writing and directing?

An open letter to Governor Christie

Before I begin, let me thank Buchanan for the platform to publish this, as I had no outlet for this other than facebook, and I was afraid this might run a bit too long for their posting capabilities.

Dear Governor Christie,

I voted for and supported Mitt Romney in the Presidential election. As I now sit here and worry about the future of our nation, I look back on where we went wrong. I’m a firm believer that those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it, so I do this in order to avoid making the same mistakes in 2016 that were made in this election cycle.

As I recall things, Mitt Romney won the first debate and started to gain momentum. Things were looking good as election day drew closer. Then the news cycle shifted gears with the terrible events of Hurricane Sandy striking the Northeast, and New Jersey and NYC in particular.

You, Governor Christie, did your job, and did it well. You took charge of the situation, and tried to keep the residents of New Jersey safe. When it was over, you surveyed the damage and tried to help the citizenry. Of course, you looked to Washington, and the President, to get New Jersey as much help as possible. Who could blame you? That’s your job.

However, there is a big difference between asking for assistance from the Federal Government, and taking an active role in the Obama campaign. You sir, for whatever reason, sold out in order to make yourself look good. Was this picture really necessary?

It’s one thing to ask for the federal assistance the state needs. It’s quite another to be used as a political pawn to help the President in his re-election campaign. There was no need to brag to the media, repeatedly, about what a great job Obama was doing. Did you make a vow to yourself to never wash your hand again after giving him that big hug?

You were used as a backdrop for a campaign appearance, plain and simple. Hell, the President left New Jersey and went right back to campaigning, while you stood there gushing to yourself “he really likes me.”

Let me ask you this; where is all this Federal help? There are still gas shortages, still large areas with no power, and I haven’t seen all this Federal help that you kissed his posterior to receive.

So Chris, do you personally go out and hook up power lines? No, so why couldn’t you take one hour out of your busy schedule to go help Mitt Romney when he campaigned 20 minutes from Trenton? Unless you were planning to lay on the beach Sunday as some sort of makeshift human dune, I think NJ could have done alright without your guidance for a short period of time.

But I guess it all worked out, because the President put Bruce Springstein on the phone with you. The same Bruce Springstein who ignored your pleas for him to perform a concert in Atlantic City. See, the Boss knows where he stands politically, so he has no intention of helping you, unless there’s something in it for his side. What was Mr. Springstein doing with the President at the time you cried on the phone with him? Oh yeah, he was working to help get Obama re-elected. You seem to have forgotten there was a pretty big election going on. But don’t worry, because the Boss said he’ll come back to help NJ recover. Of course, he’s waiting for the election to be over.

And I wouldn’t hold my breath for your photo op with Bruce Springstein. Because he knows you have a re-election campaign coming next year. And he knows that no matter who runs as the Democratic candidate for Governor, he will support them over you, because he sticks to his principles. What a pity that you don’t do the same.

The country is doomed at this point, so I hope that someone, anyone, contests your nomination in the Primary. And if that someone can’t beat you there, you’ll hopefully be sufficiently damaged that whomever the democrats run against you will win in a landslide.

Do you think Obama or the Boss are going to help your re-election effort? They’re going to do everything in their power to defeat you. And you, sir, will not get my support, because you showed that when the country needed you, you could think only of yourself.

Top 20 superhero movies of all time

20. X2: X-Men United

19. Punisher: War Zone

18. Spider-Man 2

17. X-Men

16. The Dark Knight

15. The Incredible Hulk

14. Batman Begins

13. Batman (1989)

12. Batman Returns

11. Spider-Man

10. Dredd

9. Iron Man

8. X-Men Origins: Wolverine

7. X-Men: The Last Stand

6. Spider-Man 3

5. Iron Man 3?

4. Captain America: The First Avenger

3. Thor

2. ???

1. The Avengers/The Dark Knight Rises (TIE)


My Superman reboot trilogy ideas

This is how I would write the new Superman film series:

Man of Steel:

Have it like Superman: the Animated Series, where Brainiac is the main computer system on Krypton.  When Jor-El says it will explode, Brainiac says it won’t.  Later, Brainiac reveals to Jor-El that he was right, and that Brainiac’s plan was to absorb all of Krypton’s knowledge, and let it explode.  Jor-El sends his son to Earth.  After that, go through his normal origin story where he is adopted by Jonathan and Martha Kent.  He discovers his powers as a kid.  Then, he gets a job at the Daily Planet, where he meets Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, Perry White, all those people.  Later, Lex Luthor announces that he has a meeting with an alien called Brainiac.  He convinces the World Leaders to give Brainiac information of the Planet.  Later, Superman finds out Brainiac’s true intentions to absorb all of Earth’s knowledge and then destroy it.  Superman finds out what happened to Krypton, and defeats Brainiac.  He reveals to the world Brainiac’s true intentions.  Afterwards, there is a small amount of alien language on a Lexcorp computer, which is ignored.

The Man of Steel Returns:

Luthor, humiliated by Superman after the results of the first movie, clones Superman.  The result, is Bizarro.  However, they’re both too evenly matched.  So, Luthor goes to prison and gets John Corben an early release.  He pays him 20,000,000 dollars to become Metallo and kill Superman.  Powered by kryptonite, Metallo and Bizarro almost kill Superman, but lose due to not working well together.  They take one last chance to kill Superman.  They kidnap Lois Lane to use her as bate.  Superman goes to fight them on a boat.  The boat is destroyed, causing Metallo to fall to the bottom of the ocean.  Superman then convinces Bizarro that Luthor is using him.  Bizarro turns on Luthor, and it is unknown whether either survived.

The Man of Steel Continues

Mercy Graves has taken control of Lexcorp after Luthor’s death in previous movie.  However, Luthor returns and secretly uses Lexcorp’s technology to open a portal to the Phantom Zone.  He takes General Zod to Earth and lets him build up the same powers as Superman.  He promises General Zod world domination if he gives Luthor Superman’s head on a platter.  Zod defeats him and takes him to Luthor.  Just as Zod is about to leave, Luthor throws kryptonite at him, turning on him.  Luthor hooks them up to a machine that would let him absorb their powers.  However, Brainiac takes control of the machine and sends Zod back to the Phantom Zone.  It ends on a cliff hanger ending…

Superman: The Man of Tomorrow:

Brainiac has completely taken control of Lexcorp computers.  He builds himself a new body using Lexcorp technology.  Luthor offers a deal with him to give him the most advanced technology on Earth in exchange for sparing him.  Luthor introduces him to alien technology that can recreate itself from any material.  The two of them then combine into one being, taking control of the entire city, growing across the planet, in order to destroy it.  When Superman shows up to stop him, the Luthor/Brainiac combination creates robot duplicates of every super villain Superman has faced in this trilogy.  Superman finally defeats him, and destroys every piece of Brainiac.  He even gets people to go through every ounce of Lexcorp computers and eliminate any remains of Brainiac.  Superman realizes he just faced the greatest threat the world has ever faced and won, realizing that there is just about nothing that Superman can’t handle.

The Man of Steal vs Apocalypse

An alien named Orion comes to Earth to warn Superman about an attack from Darkseid.  Superman prepares the Earth for battle against Apocalypse.  Apocalypse’s forces arrive to attack Earth.  Superman wipes out one army completely.  Darksid sends Kalibak to kill Superman.  Superman just narrowly defeats him.  Apocalypse forces continue to attack Earth.  They start to drill holes to tap the Earth’s core and create fire pits in the Earth.  Superman stops them and decides to take the fight to Darkseid.  He travels to Apocalypse to defeat Darkseid.  The two of them have an epic battle, with Superman winning.  Superman then drives the rest of Apocalypse’s forces off of Earth, winning the war.

These are my ideas for a new Superman trilogy.  There are some more villains I would of liked to have, such as Parasite, Mongul, Doomsday, and others, in this series, but couldn’t fit them in.

Ten villains who would have been better than General Zod in Superman reboot

This is a list of villains that would of been better than General Zod in the Superman reboot, Man of Steel.

10. Modern Day terrorists

Easy to modernize it, and have Superman fight against terrorists.  Have Superman destroy them in one battle, and have them realize they need their own superman, and create a new super being to fight Superman.  They could be the villains throughout the entire trilogy, and maybe in the final movie, have Lex Luthor revealed as the leader.

9. Mongul

The ruler of War World.  He has always given Superman good fights.  They could have him search the galaxy for great warriors for war world, until he reaches earth and Superman has to stop him.

8. Doomsday

Arguably the greatest Superman villain of all time.  He is the only one who was successful in killing Superman.  People would love to see Doomsday’s live action movie debut, and would be easy to bring him back for a sequel.

7. Parasite

Always a fantastic Superman villain.  Can absorb his powers and memories.  His origin is simple to work into a movie, and it’s easy to say how he wants Superman’s power, and that starts their fight, until finally, Superman stops him by using Kryptonite.

6. Mr Myxzptlk

Maybe not the most popular, but very powerful.  Easily defeating Superman if he wanted to, but all Superman has to do is get him to say his name backwards.

5. Metallo

He could kill Superman at any point.  He’s as strong as the Man of Steel, and is powered by kryptonite.  He would easily have epic battles with Superman in movies and could easily be brought back in sequels.  However, he might be better to do in a sequel, where Lex Luthor creates him to kill Superman.

4. Bizzaro

As strong as superman, all the same powers as superman, but not the same weakness as Superman.  Bizarro would be an excellent villain on the big screen.  He has yet to make his debut in a live action movie, and can always give Superman a fight.

3. Darkseid

Always a great villain for Superman to face.  Every time, Superman only narrowly defeated him.  However, if you wanted him, you  would have to change things up in the movie.  My idea is that Krypton and Apocalypse had a very long war.  Finally, Darkseid is about to destroy Krypton, and Jor-El sends Kah-El to Earth in a spaceship.  Krypton is destroyed while Kah-El is sent to Earth.  Years later, Darkseid discovers that one Kryptonian survived, and invades Earth to kill Superman.  Superman then must save Earth from Apocalypse.

2. Lex Luthor

This one is an obvious.  He has been Superman’s greatest enemy since his debut.  It would be easy to have him create some sort of robot suit to fight Superman in.  However, if you would want to use number one on the list, you should still have him make a cameo appearance, like briefly on the news.


The greatest Superman villain of all time.  He hasn’t appeared on the big screen yet, and it would be perfect to put him in a movie.  You could take his Superman: the Animated Series story and have it where he absorbed the memories of Krypton and let it explode.  He does the same with every planet he comes across.  When he gets to Earth, Superman finds out what he has done, and an epic fight starts.

five villains that would have been better than Bane in Dark Knight Rises

This is a list of villains that would have been better than Bane in the Dark Knight Rises.

While I don’t have a problem with Bane in a movie, but he can’t be the main villain.  He should have a role like he did in Batman and Robin, but like the comics.  He should be able to formulate sentences, but should be the partner of someone like Riddler or Penguin.

The top five are:

5. Harley Quinn

In a role similar to what they were going to do in Batman Triumphant, have her want revenge on Batman for Joker’s death.  She could organize an army of smaller villains to kill Batman, such as Bane (as mentioned above), Victor Zsasz, and several unnamed people.

4. Poison Ivy

A common Batman enemy.  It would be easy to have her invade Gotham with monstrous plants.  Batman then returns to save Gotham.

3. the Peguin

A famous Batman villain.  He could control the criminal underworld in an attack to take over Gotham.  After they succeed, Batman returns after eight ears to save Gotham.  The only problem with Penguin is trying to be better than the Danny DeVito Penguin in Battman Returns.

2. Riddler

One of Batman’s greatest enemies.  He can mentally go toe to toe with Batman himself.  The only thing to do would be have the serious intelligent Riddler from the comics, not the humorous character from Batman Forever.  And anyone would be better than Jim Carrey.

1. Mr. Freeze

The greatest Batman villain of all time (after the Joker).  He would fit in perfectly in this trilogy, with the dramatic events involving his wife.  You just couldn’t have him make small puns like he did in Batman and Robin (such as “Let me break the ice”).  He is well known and can always go toe to toe with Batman, and is one of the few villains that could beat him.

Ten villains that would have been better than Lizard in Spider-man reboot

This is a list of villains that would of been better as a villain for the new Spider-man reboot than Lizard.

Honorable mentions:

Venom and Carnage are great villains, but there isn’t enough room in a movie for both Spider-man’s origin story and the symbiote story.  Also, Vulture could give Spidey a fight, but he just isn’t good enough for a full movie.  Same with Chameleon.

10. Kingpin

He might be more of a Daredevil enemy, but has faced Spider-man several times.  He could have the same role he did in the 1994 Spider-man TV series, being the main villain in the movie and having another villain fight Spider-man.

9. Kraven the Hunter

He would always be a great challenge to Spider-man.  Such as the incredible Kraven’s last Hunt story line.  He almost killed Spider-man a couple times, but just never got ranked among those like Green Goblin, Dr. Octopus, and Venom.

8. Spencer Smythe/Spider-Slayers

The Spider-Slayers were always a great challenge for Spider-man, and every time, Spidey would only just narrowly win.  This could go back to the Kingpin idea where Kingpin pays Spencer Smythe to make the Spider-Slayers to kill Spider-man.

7. Black Cat

She was always a major character in the Spider-man comics.  She is the Spider-man version of Catwoman.  It would be easy to work her into a script, with her Felicia Hardy identity the love interest of Peter Parker.  This could also go back to the Kingpin plot, with her working for him.

6. Scorpion

Anytime he was in a comic, it always meant trouble for Spidey.  All you would have to do is have J. Jonah Jameson get so angry at Spider-man in the movie have him pay Mac Gargan to become Scorpion.

5. Mysterio

Another great villain.  He would always give Spider-man a fantastic fight.  He could easily be worked into a movie, with origins explained.

4. Electro

One of the greatest super villains in the Marvel Universe.  He could go toe to toe with (almost) anyone in the Marvel Universe.  It would also be easy to work in the final battle, question if he died or not somehow using water.

3. Sandman

Always a fantastic villain for Spider-man.  He almost killed him several times in Spider-man 3, and might have at the end if they hadn’t changed it where he killed Uncle Ben.

2. Green Goblin

One of Spider-man’s greatest enemies.  We saw how he was in Spider-man, and can always give an incredible fight.  The only reason he isn’t number one is because he was the villain in the original Spider-man movie.

1. Dr. Octopus

Since his debut, he has been one of Spider-man’s greatest enemies.  He almost killed Spidey in Spider-man 2, and would be easy to work into an origin movie.